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Narrator: Today on Sekulow, is a third Trump impeachment inevitable? We'll break it down today. Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Welcome to Sekulow.
Will Haynes: Will Haynes in today, and I want to hear from you. Call me at 1-800-684-3110 because you heard the tease at the beginning of that. Is a third Trump impeachment inevitable? Well, here's a headline this morning from The Hill: "A third Trump impeachment looks inevitable, but what kind?" That's as they look at the data as the midterm primaries wrap up and we look forward towards the November general election for this midterm. And it seems that the House of Representatives will go to the Democrats this fall. They are saying in this article, this is by Chris Stirewalt, many of you have heard of him before, but just how big a prospective Democrat House majority may be certainly matters most of all to Hakeem Jeffries. He's going to be getting at least a half dozen more members of the squad or the justice Democrats or whatever you like to call the blue version of the Tea Party. But they will be intent on making it as hard as possible for the would-be Speaker to get anything done. But whether Jeffries is under siege from the start or has a 12-seat cushion to protect him from the extraordinate demands, there's one thing that won't be avoided: a third impeachment of Donald Trump. I want to hear what you have to think about this. Do you think that that's what the Democrats are going to do first order of business come January of next year, 2027, when the new House is sworn in? Do you think they immediately go for impeaching the President of the United States? This is something we warned about way back with the first impeachment. As soon as they lower that bar to something that on the surface doesn't seem impeachable, but it was a political process and that's exactly what impeachment is. As soon as you lower the standard of normal and throw out the norms, as people like to talk about it, does it become something the Democrats are going to do every single time? That's what these headlines are starting to say, and you start to see it in other places as well. The National Review also wrote: "The Inevitable Impeachment Rerun." So it seems like all of these individuals that are running on affordability, healthcare costs, price of food, price of gas, ending the Iran war, is their first order of business going to be some affordability plan? Is it going to be some deregulation or change in regulation of the oil and gas industry in order to get more product to market to lower the cost? No, of course not, because it doesn't seem like there is a plan. It seems like the only plan is to try and impeach the sitting president for a third time. I want to hear from you. What do you think about this? Do you think it'll backfire? Do you think this is something that we're going to hear more about as we head towards November? Is this going to be what they end up running on in the final days of their campaigning? Call me 1-800-684-3110 and I'll take your comments or your analysis on air and I'll walk through it with you. But there's a lot here that we need to dig into. Why? Because it goes back to what we talked about yesterday on the broadcast, and I'll bring that back up in the next segment as well. Letitia James had a whistleblower in her office say, "Hey, you know what this office, the New York Attorney General's office is doing? They're saying go after the President and his allies and try to find crimes." They're trying to target the person and not the crime. That's a lot what it seems like the Democrats are going to do in November if they take back the House: impeach no matter what. That's why even that headline, "A third Trump impeachment looks inevitable, but what kind?" sounds a lot like what Letitia James' office is being accused of in New York. More indictments of the President and his allies, but what kind? That's up to their office to go digging and try to find them. Once again, call me 1-800-684-3110 as we go into all of this. Is this good for the country that we are so fixated on trying to impeach or arrest political enemies? Because that's what the Democrats seem to be doing. We'll be right back with more on Sekulow.
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Will Haynes: Welcome back to Sekulow. We're talking about this headline that kind of sparks a broader conversation. This was on the front page of The Hill today that said: "A third Trump impeachment looks inevitable, but what kind?" At the ACLJ, we're no stranger to the impeachment circus that the Democrats like to pull in the House of Representatives. But it seems like that's their goal and what they're going to get early next year, probably, is an impeachment of the President, which will then have to go to the Senate where it's razor-thin right now which way it's going to go. We'll talk about some of that later with some of the stuff that's coming out about some of the Democrat candidates they put forward. Whether or not the Democrats take the Senate, the less likely scenario is that they do. However, even if they do, they don't have the amount of votes to remove the President from office. So even an impeachment will be a fool's errand once again because it will waste time when they could be legislating. It will waste time where they could be finding common ground for the American people, and it will go and waste taxpayer dollars getting to the Senate for a failed trial that will gridlock Washington for longer. These are candidates that are saying that they want to work on affordability. They want to work on the housing crisis. They want to work on healthcare. They want to work on the fuel prices and the inflation, the prices that remain high because of the Biden-era inflation that we haven't had a reset in prices from those months of 9-plus percent inflation rates. It doesn't all of a sudden go back to zero. So when you look at this, the pollsters say there's about an 86% chance of Democrat control in the House. That's the way that midterm elections typically go. They typically bounce back to the other party. The way our system is set up, it typically happens that way. But in the past, what have you seen out of midterm elections? You see the need to work together when you have an executive branch of one party and a House majority of another. You see the need to work together to get things done, to do their job. Now part of the reason that this will go in the Democrats' favor in the House, if it does, is not only the typical pushback on the sitting executive party, but you also have the situation that we're seeing pop up here where we saw a lot of chaos from the Republican House. Not because of the Speaker, but because of members of Congress that have now left Congress even, that are actively pushing back and rebuking their own party, not over real policy questions. A lot of it's over Israel, over the fact that we have an ally in the Middle East. We've talked a lot about that. You know all this, but it's not like those members of the House that were with the Republican Party when they were members, or if they still are—some of them are still in Congress until next year when they've already lost their primary—what happens? What happens when you can't work for the American people? Well, you're probably going to lose power. But the problem now is not that the insurgent party, and really the DSA candidates that you're seeing that are going to join the House, it's not like they're going to get in and actually work towards policies that they may support, that they could moderate, that they could come together and get things across the finish line. No, they're going to go with the political option. They're going to target the President, try to get him impeached, and then what? What good did you do? Nothing. You did nothing for the American people. But that also kind of goes back to what we were talking about yesterday, where Letitia James, who ran on the very platform of investigating President Trump—and we should play this supercut for people of times when she was running for office back in 2018 of saying, "I'm going to go after the President." So let's go ahead and play that because I think it ties in so perfectly to what we're talking about today.
Letitia James: I will never be afraid to challenge this illegitimate president when our fundamental rights are at stake. I believe that the President of these United States can be indicted for criminal offenses.
Guest (Female): Will you sue him for us?
Letitia James: Oh, we’re definitely going to sue. We’re going to be a real pain in his... He’s going to know my name personally. That man in the White House who can't go a day without threatening our fundamental rights. Yes, we need to focus on Donald Trump and his abuses. We need to follow his money. We need to find out where he’s laundered money. We need to find out whether or not he’s engaged in conspiracy. It’s important that everyone understand that the days of Donald Trump are coming to an end. I look forward to going into the office of Attorney General every day, suing him, defending your rights, and then going home.
Will Haynes: Remember, that is what Letitia James ran for Attorney General of New York on. And she won, and she fulfilled that promise. And yesterday we talked about a whistleblower in the New York AG's office that sent an email that was deleted from the servers very quickly and they said, "Don't worry, it's a personnel issue," but was calling her office out for doing what? For choosing to target individuals and then find crimes. For having an enemies list. What the left always says that this federal Department of Justice does is actually what's happening in New York. But the same thing is happening in the candidates and the minority party of the House of Representatives right now where they're targeting the individual for political prosecution through an impeachment process instead of doing their real job. And that's what's going to happen if they take back the Congress in November. But remember all of these candidates that have said, "You know, we need to fundamentally change the American structure." The DSA platform itself calls for an expanded House of Representatives, abolishing the Senate, making the executive branch more like a parliamentary system where it is underneath the House and everything flows down from the House of Representatives, all the executive function. They're already saying we're going to get in and not do our jobs of being a member of the legislature. We're going to just try to do another impeachment. Whatever issue they don't like, they can use as a high crime and misdemeanor and go after the President. They're already telling you we're not going to do our job day one. We're not going to try to work with the White House. We're not going to try to work with members of the executive agencies to try and find a way forward for the American people. No, they're already telling you we're going to weaponize the process again. So why would you want them to expand the House of Representatives? It's already broken. They're already saying we're not going to get in and try to work together. Why would anyone that is a voter hear their plans to expand that and think that's a great idea? Now, I happen to think that the system of government is working great in the United States. I think it is working as the founders intended. The founders didn't intend there to be thousands of pieces of legislation going through every day that's just getting rubber-stamped. There is supposed to be some measure of gridlock. There are supposed to be different people of different parties and different ideas challenging one another so that the best idea gets forward. But when you throw out even that process and your only process is to do what? It's to just impeach. Then what's the point? Why would you even run for office? You're not trying to get legislation through, you're not trying to change anyone's mind. You're just weaponizing your office. And that's exactly what they accuse the President of doing. And that's exactly what it appears is happening in New York: a weaponization of the process, of the Attorney General's office in the state of New York. We were able to get that state FOIL request (Freedom of Information Law) in New York out yesterday afternoon. Our attorneys, as soon as we saw it, got to work. And they're asking tough questions. They know that many of these records have to be kept. That's state law. And so we're asking for those so we can get more answers about what's going on in the Attorney General's office of New York, what happened with this whistleblower. Folks, I'm going to take more of your phone calls coming up. I haven't gotten to any yet, so I'm going to take your phone calls coming up. 1-800-684-3110. In the next segment, we are going to have Secretary of State Mike Pompeo joining us to talk about the developments with Iran. After a month of relative calm, things have heated back up a little bit. We're going to talk to him about that. He has a great piece up at aclj.org right now titled "How We Win in Iran." I encourage all of you to go read it there. But we're also going to break down a lot of that with him in the next segment of the broadcast. So stay tuned for that. And then we're going to get back to your calls. Warren, Don, and Ronald, I see you on the line. I'll get to you as soon as we get on the other side of Secretary Pompeo. Thank you for calling. But if you also want to talk about this, about the weaponization of our processes, call me 1-800-684-3110 to be on air today. Later on in the broadcast, we have Rick Grenell joining us as well. We're going to talk about some of these candidates that are trying to be the more moderate lane that you think, okay, they're trying to play in a red state, maybe they want the process to work. Doesn't sound like it by some audio that's been discovered in the course of this campaign. We'll talk about that with Rick Grenell. But we also want to thank everyone that supported us in our impact match in August. You really stood with the ACLJ and it makes a world of difference. We'll be right back with more on Sekulow.
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Will Haynes: Welcome back to Sekulow. We're joined now by former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. And the Secretary has a wonderful piece up at aclj.org. I encourage everyone to go read it. It's "How We Win in Iran," and it was just published a few days ago. It really is something great that if you are a follower of this broadcast or a member of the ACLJ, not only do you get to hear from Secretary Pompeo on the broadcast, but you get these really informative pieces that are published at aclj.org, like this very one. And Mr. Secretary, we've seen the conflict flaring up again. There were some actions taken by the US at some sites where it appeared that maybe some mine-placing ships or missile sites as well were taken out by the United States. Iran responded, and then we responded in turn again. This is really the first flare-up since a month ago. But it also seems that these attacks were all intercepted, all the missiles were intercepted by the US or by our allies that were launched by Iran. Just what should our response be as this boiling over seems to be getting to that point again? Right, we will check real quick with Secretary Pompeo, make sure he is still there. I know he's traveling, which, hey, it's live radio, live broadcast, folks, that's happens. But all that, we've got the Secretary now. I'm going to go to him as well. Mr. Secretary, you heard the question?
Mike Pompeo: I did hear the question, yes. Look, I think you've got it just right. We are going to win and I think President Trump has perfectly captured how to get there. Right, today crude oil is flowing out, but not Iranian crude oil. Everybody else's. So we can keep energy prices relatively low and strangle the Iranian economy so they can't pay their soldiers, can't buy more munitions, all the things that put real pressure on the IRGC and the leadership in the regime. And I think you see that with them acting out in this way. Right, they have to every whip-stitch go take on a couple of tankers to show themselves that they still can, and to try to convince the world that they are still capable of holding the Strait of Hormuz hostage. I think this will play out in a way that as President Trump has said is inevitable, that the Iranians will find that they've got to surrender. They can't sustain this. We have the leverage, we have the time advantage, which is something people always say, "Oh, you know, America has no patience." I actually think we've got the time advantage. We can wait them out with the blockade and the economic pressure that Secretary Bevin and his team have put in place.
Will Haynes: Well, and I think it goes back to a lot of the groundwork that you did as Secretary of State with the sanctions regime that was so effective during the first Trump administration. Where they weren't able to do anything. There was so much quiet in the Middle East during that period, at a time when the US, you know, took out ISIS and was able to use the economic tools to our advantage to make sure that the Iranians did not have the capacity to export terror the way they had gotten so used to doing. I think what is interesting here, and I'd love to get your take on it as well, it's in the article that you've written, is this new sanctions regime, Operation Economic Outcast, or also Economic D-Day it's been called, that the Treasury Secretary has put forward. And as he says, as weeks go on, he's going to keep adding things to this. It is like that maximum pressure campaign, however, there's also this kinetic arm that we've seen because of Operation Midnight Hammer as well as the following operation that happened this year, Epic Fury. That when you have the kinetic piece as well as this very strong, strongest maybe we've ever seen, economic piece, it really has the opportunity for a very different world in the Middle East.
Mike Pompeo: Exactly right. Look, we did put a lot of economic pressure on them in the first Trump administration. This will be every bit as much as that and because of the nature of where the regime finds itself today, even more impactful. And then you add the fact that President Trump has now demonstrated his willingness to take kinetic action, his willingness to go after leaders, his willingness to go after military targets, to put their nuclear program on its back foot and set it back what will assuredly be years. That fundamentally changes the psychology of the Iranian leadership. And I hope there's Artesh colonels, Iranian military who are thinking, "I do not want to be part of this," and over time will find a way to help the population rise up and get what we really ultimately need, which is Iran to behave like a normal nation.
Will Haynes: We know that President Xi Jinping is coming to the US in just a few weeks. September 24th is when he is scheduled to visit Washington, DC. In your piece, you talk a lot about that China really is the economic lifeline for the Iranians. With these new sanctions in place, the blockade that we have, as well as there's even reports of some of the trade unions within Iran starting to protest again, and that is what sparked the nationwide protests earlier last year that we've talked about so much. With all of this taking place at this time and knowing that the President is coming from China to visit the White House, how much of this of Iran do you think is on the agenda for the White House with the Chinese as they come over here?
Mike Pompeo: Boy, I hope it's a lot. Your first point, which is that China's buying something on the order of 400,000 to 500,000 barrels a day of crude from the Iranians and paying them in their currency, in the Yuan. I hope we will shut that down. And I hope we'll make clear to Xi Jinping that that's in his best interest too. I'm not sure he accepts that. I think maybe the fact that we've got carrier groups stuck in the Middle East and all of the weapons that we've had to fire, he probably thinks that's probably net-net good for him. But I hope President Trump and the team, when the Chinese delegation arrives in September, will make clear to them that we're going to win this thing and they have picked the losing horse here and they ought not ride that horse. They ought to be actively working to help Iran rise up and make sure that there's never a nuclear weapon, that their terror proxies throughout the region are broke and gone, and that the new leaders or the same leaders come to understand that they can't continue to threaten the world as they have for the last 47 years. I hope that is a priority for the Chinese visit in just a couple of weeks now.
Will Haynes: Thank you, Mr. Secretary, for joining us today and thank you for your insight as well. I encourage everyone to go to aclj.org and to read this piece by Secretary Pompeo, "How We Win in Iran." It's a great informative piece. A lot of the things we just talked about there, but really a roadmap for using American strength both economically as well as militarily to win this. And I think that we can, and I think that we are on the path to do that. So thank you, Mr. Secretary, for joining us today. I have calls lined up, but two lines open if you want to join me 1-800-684-3110. If you want to talk about Iran, you can call about that as well. But also back to the original topic of the inevitable impeachment 3.0. As AOC said, Woke 1.0 was crazy, so was Impeachment 1.0, but they're still going forward with 3.0 coming up early 2027. Call me about that as well. 1-800-684-3110 to talk to me on air today. Warren, Don, Ronald, and Eddie, I'll be getting to you on the other side of this break, so hang tight there. But thank you again for supporting the ACLJ in August. You can always go to aclj.org and support our work. You can read many wonderful things from our attorneys, from Secretary Pompeo about the work we do, analysis of the world we live in. It's a really a treasure trove of information, so I encourage you just go to aclj.org and poke around. Look at the blogs, read the news, you can even watch the show there. We'll be right back with more on Sekulow.
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